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14th December 1979&#13;
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John F. Allan Esq. Shepheard Epstein &amp; Hunter 60 Kingley Street&#13;
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By way of brief introduction, I am a more or less permanent member of A.R.C.U.K council, representing structural engineers. I am not an architect - attached nor unattached. I can thus afford to be neutral and objective in my dealings with A.R.C.U.K. but nevertheless I am very keen that the objects&#13;
of A.R.C.U.K., which are to administer certain acts of Parliament, are properly and fairly achieved. It occurs to&#13;
me now that I might possibly be of some help to A.R.C.U.K.&#13;
in respect of the position of the unattached council members vis-a-vis the chairman and officers.&#13;
For the last few years the unattached architects on council&#13;
@ have provided an interesting, and at times - welcome, intrusion&#13;
into the otherwise monolithic conduct of the meetings. For&#13;
the general health of A.R.C.U.K., I think this is good but I&#13;
am now becoming worried that too much antagonism is building&#13;
up between the unattached members and the "establishment".&#13;
The December 12th meeting was about the worst I have attended and was most depressing. Although I think the Chairman&#13;
tried hard to maintain the order and the dignity of the proceedings, there were times when matters proceeded ina thoroughly bad way. Certainly a great deal of time was&#13;
wasted and meetings such as that can only bring eventual discredit of A.R.C.U.K. as a whole. Responsibility for this poor state of affairs, in my view, lies more or less equally&#13;
in all directions but that aspect does not particularly&#13;
concern me. What does concern me very deeply is that A.R.C.U.K. should not become a shambles and I am sure that this view is shared by yourself and the other unattached members of council.&#13;
&#13;
 Now the point of my letter is to offer myself as a link (or&#13;
if you prefer it, a "go-between"), neutral and disinterested, whereby unattached members of council can have a communication channel through to the chairman and officers and - most important-vice versa.&#13;
If I proved acceptable to both sides, I could not guarantee that all issues could be speedily settled but in a percentage of cases I feel that a lot of time, heat and exasperation could be avoided at the council meetings.&#13;
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I am experienced in the conduct and behaviour of a&#13;
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as their reactionaries, "establishments" and the like.&#13;
At various times I have found myself a member of almost all such factions! I have served on the council of my&#13;
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I am making this suggestion off my own bat and there is nothing lying behind or underneath the offer. I have not so far approached the chairman and obviously his co-operation would be essential. I hope you will pursue my suggestion&#13;
for at worst, nothing would be lost and at best, both time and temper would be saved and perhaps some of the objectives of the unattached architects would be achieved more speedily.&#13;
With best wishes for a happy Christmas. Yours sincerely,&#13;
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                <text>Dear Mr Forder,&#13;
I am writing to add my apologies to those of Stephen Dunmore's for the oversight which ted to ARCUK not being consulted untit very recently. This vas, I assure you, no deliberate act but a simple oversight, the result of having to accomplish too much tn too ttttte time.&#13;
In the event, no damage Witt be done. We are now better informed about the problems perceived by att the construction professions and their clients and thus better able to take account of your advice and put it in contect.&#13;
When you have responded to our Letter — me of course recognise that you uttt need adequate time to put together a considered response - I would be very glad to have the opportunity to meet you and influential members of ARCUK to talk through the issues you raise and your priorities for reform. In this zo'ay the Study Team Witt be able to take futt account of your response and, importantly, of the concerns of the one in four architects who are not members of any constituent body.&#13;
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Again my apologies for our Late enquiry.&#13;
Yours sincerely&#13;
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Chairman Professor Donald Bishop, CEng, MICE, ARICS, FCIOB&#13;
Secretary Ms. Ann Blackmore&#13;
Technical Secretary Dr. Geoff Prosser&#13;
WATERHOUSE &amp; RIPLEY	Chartered Architects 50 Charlotte Street London WIP ILW	&#13;
Telephone: 01-637 0881&#13;
&#13;
&#13;
Dear Norman ,&#13;
The Registrar passed me a copy of your letter of 7 August and I apologise for the delay in responding due to holidays and the distraction of the Directive .&#13;
I take you points 1) and 2) which were upheld by the Group.&#13;
I assume 'professional' was inserted to exclude matters covered by general law e.g. race — but I see it as incompatible with ARCUK's general Thesis that a 'criminal offence' may have a professional dimension.&#13;
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"An architect concerned with the selection of other architects for appointments or advancement should not make any requirement or preference in addition to registration which would limit the field of choice without demonstrably good reason " .&#13;
I should like to have your reaction to this before consulting members of group — from whom I have had no comment on my Memo. of 25 June.&#13;
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&#13;
D B WATERHOUSE.&#13;
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Dear Norman ,&#13;
The Registrar passed me a copy of your letter of 7 August and I apologise for the delay in responding due to holidays and the distraction of the Directive .&#13;
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I should like to have your reaction to this before consulting members of group — from whom I have had no comment on my Memo. of 25 June.&#13;
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9, POLAND St,LONDON. W1V3DG. Telephone: (Work) 01-888.1212&#13;
The Right Honourable Reg. Freeson M.P. Minister of Housing and Construction Department of the Environment&#13;
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Re: Community Architecture&#13;
Following reports in the Technical Press that you are inviting proposals from the architectural profession on the future potential of community architecture, we now submit for your consideration, two copies of our report entitled ''Community Architecture - A Public Design Service?".&#13;
We trust that this report will constructively contribute to the material on which you will make your decision, and we confirm our willingness&#13;
to participate in any further debate which you may wish to pursue.&#13;
&#13;
 MINISTER FOR HOUSING AND CONSTRUCTION&#13;
Dee M. Movay&#13;
Mr John Murray&#13;
New Architecture Movement 9 Poland Street&#13;
LONDON WiV 3DG&#13;
5 October 1978&#13;
Mr Freeson has asked me to thank you for your letter of 29th September enclosing two copies of the report entitled&#13;
"Community Architecture - A Public Design Service" which he will read with interest.&#13;
DEPAORFTHEMENEVIRNONTMENT 2 MARSHAM STREET LONDON SW1P 3EB 01-212 7601&#13;
MRS S. DUNCAN Assistant Private Secretary&#13;
Yous aivec—ey&#13;
3.Ounce.&#13;
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                <text>Having considered the various texts again I offer yet another alternative:&#13;
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&#13;
Norman Arnold &amp; Eddy Walker 4a The Corn Exchange	Leeds LSI 7BP&#13;
Kenneth J Forder&#13;
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73 Hal lam Street&#13;
LONDON WIN 6EE&#13;
Dear Mr Forder&#13;
ADVICE TO ARCHITECTS NO 7&#13;
Architects&#13;
0532 445795&#13;
7 August 1985&#13;
RECEIVED 9 AUG 1985&#13;
&#13;
With reference to Mr Waterhouse's letter of 25 June 1985.&#13;
I have discussed the situation with John Allan and we offer the- following comments.&#13;
 We hold reservations about omiss ions from the alternative, in particular •or preference" Is it not a cause for concern when equal opportunity employers are stating "preference will be given to&#13;
2) We also cons ider it is important to communicate the concern of the PPC regarding the pitfalls of unreasonably limiting choice.&#13;
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I note that the alternative still includes the words n or advancement" and • in addition to n	I recall Mr McCarthy citing these late additions to the printed agenda as the reason for his unease regarding the entire Advice Note and I think it clearly illustrates his muddled thinking, due perhaps to his hurried attempts at stalling Councils acceptance of the Note.&#13;
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"Architects concerned with the selection of other architects for appointments or advancement should not make any requirement or preference in addition to registration unless it can be demonstrated that this does not impair an architects integrity and does not limit choice unreasonably" &#13;
I will be prepared to discuss this further by letter or at a CMG either before or after the PPC of September 18th.&#13;
&#13;
Yours sincerely&#13;
WATERHOUSE &amp; RIPLEY	Chartered Architects&#13;
50 Charlotte Street London WIP ILW&#13;
DAVID B WATERHOUSETelephone: 01437 0881&#13;
&#13;
ROGER M BUTTON JACK R WOOD&#13;
DONALD G KINO&#13;
DBW/LH/WA	3rd September 1985&#13;
Norman Arnold Architect 4a The Corn Exchange Leeds LSI 7B?&#13;
Dear Norman ,&#13;
The Registrar passed me a copy of your letter of 7 August and I apologise for the delay in responding due to holidays and the distraction of the Directive .&#13;
I take you points 1) and 2) which were upheld by the Group.&#13;
I assune 'professional' was inserted to exclude matters covered by general law e.g. race but I see it as Incompatible with ARCIJK's general Thesis that a 'criminal offence' may •have a professional dimension. &#13;
Reflecting on the nature and expression of the existing 'Advice to Architects in relation to the Standard and Explanatory Memorandum, I think that the implication for integrity. can be taken without express reference.&#13;
So I too offer another alternative :—&#13;
"An architect concerned with the selection of other architects for appointments or advancement should not make any requirement or preference in addition to registration which would limit the field of choice without demonstrably good reason " .&#13;
I should like to have your reaction to this before consulting me m ners of group — from whom I have had no corunent on my Memo. of 25 June.&#13;
Yours sincerely ,&#13;
&#13;
D B WATERHOUSE.&#13;
&#13;
&#13;
ADVICE To ARCHITECTS&#13;
&#13;
Thank you for your letter of 3 September.&#13;
In short, I find your alternative acceptable and would be prepared for it to replace my own suggestion of 7 August (annex D PPC 18 .9 . 85 ) .&#13;
Yours sincerely&#13;
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MOTION A&#13;
This Council considers that discrimination exercised by an architect employed by a Local, District or Metropolitan Authority or Central Government, based on the premise that preference in selection of applicants for employment by the Authority in the style of architect will be given to members of an institute or similar organisation, constitutes unacceptable conduct when measured against the ARCUK document&#13;
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MOTION B&#13;
This Council considers that discrimination exercised by an architect employed by a Local, District or Metropolitan Authority or Central Government, based on the premise that a condition of employment or engagement of an architect by the Authority will be the membership of an institute or similar organisation, constitutes unacceptable conduct when measured against the ARCUK document "Conduct and Discipline" .&#13;
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This Council directs the Registrar to write to the Secretary of the&#13;
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The statement should consist (as previously) of 'l a firm reiteration that membership of the RIBA should not be inferred as conferring any additional qualification" with regard to the title or job description of architect.&#13;
This communication should be made with particular reference to (but not exclusively) recruiting advertisements and conditions of employment for architectural staff.&#13;
Motion C cont/ .&#13;
It should also be pointed out to Authorities that many describe themselves as "equal opportunity employers" and as such they should not discriminate against architects who choose not to belong to one particular institute or another.&#13;
MOTION D&#13;
This Council directs the Registrar to enable circulation of Motions&#13;
'A' 'B' and 'C' to:&#13;
Chief Executives of all relevant Public Authorities in the United Kingdom.&#13;
Associations of Chief Architects of Local Authorities.&#13;
The Association of Official Architects.&#13;
The Press.&#13;
&#13;
&#13;
&#13;
�trial section. A thorough struct analysis must always be carried ou ub story&#13;
	How many more reminders w	rom Irvine	Bendelow DipA rch,&#13;
&#13;
Shaw, Gary Parkinson, John Beck London WI&#13;
All my own work&#13;
Fro•m Roderick Gradidge&#13;
, 	Sir: Delighted though I was to see&#13;
Astragal linking my name with that of Quinlan Terry, the most successful publicist of the 'new architecture' (AJ 21.11.84 p26), I must protest at the&#13;
suggestion that I am a 'classic	Roderick Gradidge: 'I prefer a more empirical revivalist'—which presumably	approach'. See 'All my own work'.&#13;
canopies at Portland Place and in my view totally wasteful exercises in remodelling the inside of Portland Place.&#13;
I spent the best six years of my life studying to become an architect, at the end of which time I was accepted as an associate (the good old title) of the Institute, and haven't I paid for it since.&#13;
The time has now arrived when I must seriously consider my resigning from the Institute which, after 24 years' membership, would be a decision of great sadness. Irvine J. E. Bendelow&#13;
Watford, Herts&#13;
Tile tale&#13;
From Paul McGinty of&#13;
H. &amp; R. Johnson Tiles Ltd Sir: I write to correct a number of statements made in your Products in practice supplement on plaster, render and tiles (AJ 4.7.84). First, the assertion that British ceramic tile manufacturers have followed the continentals in marketing a 'universal' tile has no foundation. The Johnson universal edge has, since the late 1970s, remained unique in that it is self-spacing, thereby acting to replace spacer and border tiles while leaving sufficient width for the grouted joints. We know of no continental tile that has this facility.&#13;
Second, in conjunction with our sister company, A. G. Tiles, H. &amp; R. Johnson manufactures in&#13;
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(200 x 150 mm, 200 x 200 mm and 300 x 200 mm) which you suggest are the preserve of the continentals. Rest assured, if the UK market demands even bigger tiles in sufficient commercial quantities then the companies of the Norcros Ceramic Division are quite prepared to meet that demand. Paul McGinty&#13;
Stoke-on-Trent&#13;
Quids out&#13;
From John Harris, curator ofthe&#13;
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&#13;
By the close of the voting period on Thursday, 7th February 1985, (Reg .45&#13;
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Additionally 42 ballot forms were returned, unsigned, in other envelopes and these were also discarded.&#13;
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Yours sincerely,&#13;
&#13;
Ballot Services Department, ELECTORAL REFORM SOCIETY.&#13;
&#13;
The Electoral Reform Society of Great Britain and Ireland Limited&#13;
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ELECTORAL REFORM SOCIETY: BALLOT SERVI CES DEPARTMENT&#13;
&#13;
ORGANI SATI ON: ARCHITECTS REGISTRATION COUNCIL OF UK&#13;
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(i) (ii)&#13;
(iii)&#13;
(iv)&#13;
(v)&#13;
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UNATTACHED ARCHITECTS&#13;
PROPOSALS TO INCREASE COMPETITION IN ARCHITECTS! SERVICES&#13;
We would like to thank you for Tuesday's very useful meeting to discuss the abandonment of architects' mandatory fee scale and I would like to summarize our position as follows&#13;
The Mandatory Minimum Fee having been abandoned, architects should be free to compete in terms of fee as well as quality of service&#13;
The removal of the Fee Scale's mandatory status can be speedily and simply achieved by requiring ARCUK to amend its rules (as scheduled in Way Ahead). This would enable all architects who wish to depart from the Monopiy to do so&#13;
Any new recommended fee systems should be based on ranges of architects' own costs instead of the discredited 'ad valorem! method&#13;
It may be considered simplest for the Government (DoE) to prepare the primary recommended fee scale for its own use in assessing value for money in public sector commissions thus avoiding the additional administration and expense of a new agency&#13;
Recommended fee scales may be prepared by other bodies both&#13;
within and outside the profession provided the following conditions are observed&#13;
a) Copies are deposited with Minister for Consumer Affairs ° b) ‘The non-mandatory status is clearly printed on all&#13;
documents in which reference to the fee scale is made&#13;
The Government should conduct periodic reviews (the first within&#13;
3 years) to ensure that a de facto monoyiy is not being established through RIBA dominance . It may be appropiate to consider providing the&#13;
OFT with these review powersein the proposed Competition Bill. The apparently enhanced competative conditions arising from architectural design competitions must be set against the disadvantages of considerable abortive work and time and reduced client influence in the development of the brief and we feel&#13;
that design competitions would thus continue to be of benefit in only limited circumstances&#13;
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(pit(4 DAVID ROEBUCK&#13;
On Behalf Of JOHN ALLAN ROBERT MALTZ&#13;
JOHN MURRAY&#13;
Yours sincerely&#13;
Our proposals now combine the benefits of competition in both quality and fee in suggesting that architects in competing for a commission should include a fee quotation alongside full information as to their experience, resources and capabilities. Quotations should be explicit as to architects costs and could be presented in the format drafted in Appendix I of our report.&#13;
(vidi) Fee quotation and then negotiation would probably be the most effective method given the obvious disadvantages of straight ES tendering.&#13;
As agreed, a straight tendering system apart from being vulnerable&#13;
to the dangers of "ringing" would reduce the client's opportunity&#13;
to take into account considerations of quality when assessing commissions in terms of value for money. Conversely negotiation alone with a selected architect does not meet the criteria of increased competition&#13;
(ix) We consider it most unlikely that architects would be tempted to work uneconomically for the temporary advantage of obtaining commissions but we would expect that the enhanced climate for competition would encourage a considerably greater diversity of services available to the consumer&#13;
With regard to your question as to the possible RIBA response to the adoption of these proposals we consider this less likely to be a bang than a whimper.&#13;
We should be glad to assist in any costing exercise that the Government may initiate and trust that in the event of any further discussions on this or related matters with your department, the OFT or the DoE we hope that the&#13;
'Unattached' representing nearly 20% of the profession continue to be consulted.&#13;
Pls.se address ory eee ai CPrveoperoleQc hkfor eG.&#13;
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                <text> OAK COTTAGE, PADLEY MEWS, GRINDLEFORD, SHEFFIELD, S30 1HP 16 April 1987 Hope Valley 31084 Dear Tom,&#13;
Thank you for your kind letter of 12 February 1987 &amp; this is very much appreciated. Now that the dust is settling 4 little , I have been thinking about the consequences of recent events.&#13;
I shall be resigning from the RIBA as I do not think that can stay 4&amp;4member that treats any contrary opinion or minority view with such distain.&#13;
I think that there has been = change of view by other minorites on ARCUK &amp; a permanent political shift; non-RIBA members will no longer trust the RIBA &amp; are likely to vote against their block vote. This means that the unattached&#13;
&amp; mon-RIBA members could gain control of ARCUK within&#13;
5 years.&#13;
I enclose notes on the situation which you might like to discuss with your colleagues.&#13;
Vva =&#13;
incerely,&#13;
GR Adams.&#13;
Dr Tom Wooley&#13;
School of Architecture&#13;
Humberside College of Higher Education Strand Close&#13;
Hull HUZ OBT&#13;
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NUMBERS&#13;
esent disagreements with RIBA are about cont rol rather than education. RIBA is concerned that if ARCUEK takes on more responsibilities, this will lead to an increase in ARCUK retention&#13;
fee &amp; make architects more likely to not join or resien from RIBA thus leading to long term Weakness division in the profession&#13;
The attached chart shows the lone term trends.&#13;
Since 1972 RIBA numbers have stuck at 20,000 to 20,500 giving 40 to 42 seats. The statutory numbers have remained at 13. The -~RIBA canstituent bodies have fallen from 8 to 6. The unattached have risen from 5 to 13&#13;
The update of ARCUK numbers at 15 April 1987 shows these trends continuing, with RIBA (20462) -1 &amp; unattached (6771) 41. But these fisures could change by 31 October, the count date. With a big effort,&#13;
if unattached could gain 230, they would gain 2 seats for 1968.&#13;
The average increase on the register in the past 5 years isoc 423, &amp; in the past 4 years 514.&#13;
Tt seems that most of the new architects do not join RIBA but prefer to register only&#13;
Because of the number of students at the nools&#13;
this increase of about 500 per a&#13;
continue for at least the next 6 to 7 years. At this rate,, the unattached would gain 4 to 5 seats in the next &amp; years&#13;
Since 1977, the AA has lost 2 seats. If all the&#13;
non RIBA bodies had a drive tol nereasse their numbers they could gain extra seat1s:. Because double&#13;
representation is allowed, if AA &amp; STAMP in particular could accept each others membeers, &amp; get to 1001 &amp; 501 respectively, then each would fain 1 seat. If FAS &amp; TAAS also reciprocated &amp; each got to S01, they would each fain 1 s&#13;
When the Order in Council ifs approved, all EEC architects will be able to get on the ARCUK register. The Irish are most likely to benifit. They have put forward both University Collese &amp; Bolten Street Schools, producing 80 graduates per annum. RIBA has only recognised University College. Because oa shortage of work in Eire, the #resat majority of the eraduates go abroard &amp;£ most come to UE, particularly Ulster. They may be reluctant to join RIBA because&#13;
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They are likely to come from:-&#13;
a RIAI members wanting a business address in UE&#13;
or already here.&#13;
b Non RIAT now working in UE.&#13;
Cc New graduates from the 2 schools.&#13;
If a lot of publicity was given to these opportunties&#13;
both in UE &amp; Eire, &amp; 501 registered in next 5 years a&#13;
unattached could gain 2 seats.&#13;
Pecause RIBA is commiting itself to high expenditure in UIA, expansion at No 66, more staff for regions&#13;
&amp; also facing loss of revenue temporally from their Companies moving to Sxpensive accomodation, RIBA&#13;
subs are likely to increase at more than average&#13;
rate of inflation ot 5%. The sub might increase from £ISS to £168 if at 52 &amp; near £180 if more.&#13;
There may be an increasing number who will not be Willing to pay &amp; will not join or resign.&#13;
This may lead to the loss of some say 3 seats over 5 yeare.&#13;
The possible changes might be :-&#13;
1987 1988 1984 1990 i991&#13;
RIBA 424140ag38&#13;
Statutory i3 13 13 is i3 NonConst 6778S&#13;
Unattached is 13 i3 i3 13 Annual -1234 EEC -1i22 RIBAresign - 1 2 3 4&#13;
Total NonRIBA 32 36 3a 42 4a&#13;
The Statutory nominees used to vote with RIBA, but because of recent events they are concerned at the Bbulldesinge by RIBA with their majority on ARCUE. Several are likely to vote against or abstain in&#13;
the future &amp; RIBA can no longer take these votes for eranted.&#13;
k The 5&amp; non-RIBA constituent bedies, particularly&#13;
FAS &amp; IAAS, are also concerned &amp; are likely to vote aeainst RIBA if it attempts to block ARCUE development&#13;
page 2&#13;
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 RIBA can no longer rely on 100% support from its own nominees.&#13;
a Several resent the cynical removal of Adams &amp;&#13;
Hinton from Council.&#13;
Bb Many resent being treated as voting fodder &amp; will&#13;
abstain, vote against or not attend Council&#13;
of RIBA nominees averages&#13;
can only generally count on 30 votes, @xcept at the AGM where a 3&#13;
whip is imposed. Less pressure is December meeting at which the rete is agreed for the next year.&#13;
d Many RIBA members drift off after tea. On gs occasions in the past RIBA has been in a minority.&#13;
For these reason&#13;
of 42 to 32 is t&#13;
which raises strong feelings or if RIBA tries to force through policies in its own interests.&#13;
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ARCUE lease of YS Hallam Street&#13;
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4000 sq ft will be greatly increased:- @ £25&#13;
@ £30&#13;
FINANCE&#13;
The general policy of RIBA is to allow ARCUEK to do&#13;
as little as possible, keep work&#13;
dow &amp; tightly control all expenditure.&#13;
In 1985-86, the updated all ga&#13;
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with the increasing work resisted by RIBA_ behind the not oppose this openly.&#13;
reviewed. It is also probable&#13;
Ss, brought&#13;
introduced 3 pension &amp; life&#13;
£i00,000 increase £120,000 increase&#13;
£ 73,000 £ 93,000&#13;
£2.43per head £3.1 per head&#13;
for ARCUR discussed&#13;
To agree review of all new From EEC&#13;
At £13 ARCUK goes into the red extra costs &amp; will have spent reserve&#13;
regulations arising&#13;
in 1988 even without all the general fund&#13;
all staff, &amp; increased&#13;
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There is now a further increase in work load from education &amp; EEC, &amp; all know that-ARCUK cannot cope without more staff. This centres on the appointment of a Secretary to BAE. RIBA intends to black this&#13;
ment by deferring a de t can make&#13;
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If larger offices are needed for more staff bigger increases are possible.&#13;
BAE will be asked to hold 4 meetings annually instead of 2 to cope with increased work load on education. Because of the increased numbers on BAF each meeting Will cost about £3000. Since the unattached now have more than 10 members on Council, they can call extra Council meetings at £2000 , without Council agreement. Such meetings might be needed for:&#13;
a If RIBA try to overturn past setts ies&#13;
b When Order in Council approved &amp; implications&#13;
&#13;
 For all these reasons an increase in retention fee is inevitable in the next 5 years&#13;
Possible retention fees are:&#13;
1987 1988 1989 1990 1994&#13;
Fee £i2 £1i3 £i6 £20 £20 Income&#13;
@ 30K SB90000 390000 48680000 6ng0cgm 600000&#13;
RIBA is trying to regain control of F &amp; GP &amp; replace Francis Goodail with Alan Groves.&#13;
The decisions of F &amp; GP will be critical i ex years on the staff levels, new lease &amp; retention fe&#13;
The Registrar retires in 3 to 4 years.RIBA would like to get him to go earlier as they regard him as too independent &amp; want some-one more docile who will not oppose RIBA policy.&#13;
RIBA administers &amp; publishes all Joint Contract Tribunal documents &amp; makes some money from it.&#13;
The contractors &amp; sub contractors want to take it from RIBA &amp; make JCT independent.&#13;
Robert Johnson is a barrister &amp; legal advisor on RIBA staff &amp; adminsters ICT. If RIBA lose JCT, ©&#13;
ohnseon would be redundant. RIBA would like him to be the next registrar. He is a quiet man &amp; would be an RIBA puppet. With his legal &amp; architectural experience, he would be a strong candidate. RIBA wants to get their nominees in place to make this appointment in the next 3 years &amp; to do this must control F &amp; GP &amp; staff sub-committee.&#13;
If the unattached &amp; non-RIBA members wish to gain control of ARCUEK Council, they must:-&#13;
a Ensure that BAE has joint or total control&#13;
of visiting boards &amp; recognition.&#13;
b Appoint Secretary of BAE &amp; support staff. c Get ARCUK to spend on more activities&#13;
&amp; staff, so that the retention fee increases &amp; more are likely to be unattached.&#13;
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 FROM THE ROSCOE PROFESSOR OF ARCHITECTURE&#13;
JOHN NELSON TARN, B.ARCH., PH.D., F.R.1.B.A., F.R.HISTS.&#13;
THE LIVERPOOL SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE AND BUILDING ENGINEERING LEVERHULME BUILDING ABERCROMBY SQUARE P.O. BOX 147 LIVERPOOL L69 3BX&#13;
The University of Liverpool INT/VSD.&#13;
Mre Bob Adams , Oak Cottage, Padley Mews, GRINDLEFORD, Derbyshiree&#13;
Dear Bob,&#13;
TEL: 051 — 709 -6022&#13;
TELEX NO: 627095 UNILPL G&#13;
Ext.2914. 16th April, 1987.&#13;
a&#13;
A number of things have happened at ARCUK since I took over as Chairman which require my action.&#13;
. The Architects Directive Working Group is coming to the end of its&#13;
job and I think it is sensible that the present group should be disbanded. For this coming session I intend to constitute an advisory group consisting of myself, Kenneth Taylor, Alan Groves and David Waterhouse. David,&#13;
being in London, will be able to answer and respond quickly to any issues which arise from DOE. He, of course, has all the experience, too.&#13;
My best wishes.&#13;
Yours sincerely,&#13;
a&#13;
I understand that you intend to be present at the CLAEU Meeting in Granada on the 29th April. Neither Kenneth Taylor nor myself will be present and in order that the situation may be legally correct I have asked Alan Groves to formally represent me and ARCUK. I think it is not possible for you to do this since you are no longer&#13;
however, enclosing the papers which were sent to ARCUK, since these are the only set, I understand, which we possess.&#13;
Kenneth Forder tells me that you wish to retain the Chairmanship on the J.C.AeRe I do not think that this is possible, since you are not on Council, and I believe that the constitution of the group will have tp be Kenneth Taylor and myself, as the two surviving members with experience of&#13;
the meetings in September, and Alan Groves, who is the most recent past Chairman , still on Council.&#13;
a member of Council. I am,&#13;
I hope you will understand that I find this letter a somewhat distasteful one to have to write, but it seems to me that it is better for me to clear&#13;
the air about the formal issues now. I am greatly saddened by the events of the last few weeks, more particularly because it inevitably means a constraint between you and me after many years of friendship which go back to my early days in Sheffield.&#13;
Inclse CLAEU papers - I should be grateful if you would please let me have these back.&#13;
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Avanti Architects Limited Date 39/41 North Road&#13;
LONDON&#13;
N7 9DP&#13;
Dear friend&#13;
TW/EK&#13;
27 April 1987&#13;
I believe we need to meet soon to discuss:&#13;
(i) the appointment&#13;
of the education secretary’&#13;
Best wishes&#13;
TW! TOM WOOLLEY&#13;
Enc&#13;
. Ourref&#13;
0%HUMBERSIDE COLLEGE&#13;
Qo&#13;
of Higher Education&#13;
Strand Close Hull HU2 9BT Telephone (0482) 25938&#13;
School of Architecture&#13;
Your ref&#13;
I enclose a copy of a wonderfully helpful letter from Bob Adams. In view of this I think it essential that we all meet to discuss future strategy and tactics. Ken Forder agreed to pay our expenses to meet and I think we should take him up on this. This can either be arranged in London or I can offer Hull as a venue (which might be a more relaxed place to meet). As Alastair usually acts as co-ordinator, I will leave it to him to find a date.&#13;
In the past our pre-meetings are rarely 100% attended, often I miss them myself, and I think that we should all make a superhuman effort to get together at least once. I also think we must use the advantage of numbers to continue to split RIBA voting, which means everyone attending meetings. For instance if Les Porsyth can't manage to come to meetings, he should stand&#13;
down in favour of Andy Earl who I think is next on the voting list, especially as his boss is now ARCUK Chairman!&#13;
(ii) the panel visit on the RIBA exam&#13;
(iii) what Bob Adams says about getting publicity to lift our numbers for this year's count&#13;
(iv) our power to call special council meetings&#13;
(v) how we can raise funds to organise ourselves better (perhaps employ— ing a part-time secretary)&#13;
(vi) how to counter RIBA plans to replace Forder&#13;
(vii) how to exercise more influence on F + GP over financial decisions.&#13;
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